Comments on: Just about fair http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/ manu scripts with a y Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:20:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: manuscrypts http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-12294 manuscrypts Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:42:02 +0000 http://www.manuscrypts.com/?p=2264#comment-12294 thanks naren :) thanks naren :)

]]> By: manuscrypts http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-12293 manuscrypts Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:40:25 +0000 http://www.manuscrypts.com/?p=2264#comment-12293 hmm, the author may have defined the scope of the article and its perspective from an 'SRK and us' pov... in that sense, he need not bring in media... its not just others he's pointing fingers, its himself too, and while there may have been people who support social causes etc, that's just one of the perils of generalisation... perceptions-perspectives-passion-causes.. for me objectivity is still important.. because otherwise one way of partial/contextual justice is is being replaced with another... shall read up Prem P's article..thanks for sharing :) hmm, the author may have defined the scope of the article and its perspective from an ‘SRK and us’ pov… in that sense, he need not bring in media…
its not just others he’s pointing fingers, its himself too, and while there may have been people who support social causes etc, that’s just one of the perils of generalisation…
perceptions-perspectives-passion-causes.. for me objectivity is still important.. because otherwise one way of partial/contextual justice is is being replaced with another…
shall read up Prem P’s article..thanks for sharing :)

]]> By: manuscrypts http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-12292 manuscrypts Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:15:48 +0000 http://www.manuscrypts.com/?p=2264#comment-12292 thanks :) thanks :)

]]> By: naren http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-12250 naren Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:07:46 +0000 http://www.manuscrypts.com/?p=2264#comment-12250 That was superbly written. Enjoyed! That was superbly written. Enjoyed!

]]> By: Surekha Pillai http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-12230 Surekha Pillai Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:01:51 +0000 http://www.manuscrypts.com/?p=2264#comment-12230 that's an interesting take on the issue, manu. the fact that despite not caring for SRK and his antics, and believing the airport incident was ridiculous and blown out of proportion by all of us, calling the comparison drawn in the BS article unfair perhaps shows there is some sense of justice :) on a more serious note, the reasons why i called the BS article harsh and unfair, and i think i am sticking to my point of view, are three-fold: - the author did not own up to media's role in the nation "seething in anger" over the incident when media (including social media) played a catalyst role in whatever happened. - the author takes an impractical, idealistic standpoint, and in a gross generalisation, points fingers at others, and makes safe assumptions that those who protested against the incident have not supported any social cause. - in the generalisations made, the author ignores the fact that these outraged fans could well have included some from the very same people sleeping on the road that he refers to. their sense of loyalty towards celebrities is not always very different from those with a roof over their heads. that is my view on the article per se. on the other interesting points you raise, my personal opinion is that "unfairness and injustice" need not be absolutes, and need not be "independent of the individual's perceptions and perspectives". infact commitment to justice and fairness require the strength of passion which can only stem from experiences one can relate to. i believe there are enough of us with diverse experiences to support causes that we personally have been affected by. that would be a more practical stand to take to truly bring about a positive transformation. this is not to say we turn indifferent to issues that do not have a direct bearing on us. but all of us need not qualify in our mental make up to become judges to do justice. while it makes for a great theory, it is just not practical. as for SRK, i think prem panicker summed it up rather well in this post: http://prempanicker.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/memo-to-shah-rukh/ that’s an interesting take on the issue, manu. the fact that despite not caring for SRK and his antics, and believing the airport incident was ridiculous and blown out of proportion by all of us, calling the comparison drawn in the BS article unfair perhaps shows there is some sense of justice :)

on a more serious note, the reasons why i called the BS article harsh and unfair, and i think i am sticking to my point of view, are three-fold:

- the author did not own up to media’s role in the nation “seething in anger” over the incident when media (including social media) played a catalyst role in whatever happened.
- the author takes an impractical, idealistic standpoint, and in a gross generalisation, points fingers at others, and makes safe assumptions that those who protested against the incident have not supported any social cause.
- in the generalisations made, the author ignores the fact that these outraged fans could well have included some from the very same people sleeping on the road that he refers to. their sense of loyalty towards celebrities is not always very different from those with a roof over their heads.

that is my view on the article per se.

on the other interesting points you raise, my personal opinion is that “unfairness and injustice” need not be absolutes, and need not be “independent of the individual’s perceptions and perspectives”. infact commitment to justice and fairness require the strength of passion which can only stem from experiences one can relate to. i believe there are enough of us with diverse experiences to support causes that we personally have been affected by. that would be a more practical stand to take to truly bring about a positive transformation. this is not to say we turn indifferent to issues that do not have a direct bearing on us. but all of us need not qualify in our mental make up to become judges to do justice. while it makes for a great theory, it is just not practical.

as for SRK, i think prem panicker summed it up rather well in this post:

http://prempanicker.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/memo-to-shah-rukh/

]]> By: Argentyne http://www.manuscrypts.com/2009/08/25/just-about-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-12229 Argentyne Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:18:15 +0000 http://www.manuscrypts.com/?p=2264#comment-12229 Manu, really nice article. Have felt the same way many a time, all we're bothered about is our little bubble. Thank you! Manu, really nice article. Have felt the same way many a time, all we’re bothered about is our little bubble. Thank you!

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